What is intuition? That we will never know because under Gödel’s the incompleteness theorem or the Turing machine, in principle, impossible to describe the whole system in terms of it part.

The existence of God is not demonstrably. Not demonstrably absence of God. This is outside of cause and effect, it is beyond logic. For primitive theory Laplace such a hypothesis is not required. The discoveries that made Einstein, Bohr, Pauli, Gödel, Turing, Yung without this hypothesis it is difficult to understand:))

Even the Catholic Church now says that Aquinas was wrong: you can’t prove the existence of god from nature.

And the bible says pi = 3. Hard to think that math shows god when god can’t get the math right. The bible also condones slavery and murder and says that there are witches and other such utter nonsense; all that mixed in with some good ethical rules. On balance, it is more crap than reality.

And saying we’re made in god’s image does not make it so. Would that image be male or female, and what race, by the way?

Atheism is not faith, not any more than my scientific support for the theories of universal gravitational attraction of mass, or of evolution. My theory is that there is no god, and that there is also no way to test to prove or disprove the theory, just as there is no way to prove or disprove what Heller was after: that there has to be a reason for existence. I don’t know about any strategic reason, but tactically, I exist to pass my genes on (and have done so).

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article3540989.ece - Professor wins prize for maths link to God

“A Polish priest and mathematician has won the world’s richest academic prize for work that shows how maths can offer circumstantial evidence of God’s existence.

Professor Michael Heller, 72, a pioneering cosmologist and philosopher specialising in mathematics and metaphysics, received the ?820,000 prize yesterday in New York.”

Atheism. It is the product of the faith. This is irrational. It is also a form of a religion.
Everyone was created in the image and likeness of God. Anyone himself is free to decide what to believe him.
And no one is closer to God than you did himself, neither the Pope nor a someone.
Ethics is a insidious thing. If you think yours ethics is better - it is not modesty position. If you preach someone else’s ethics - it is immoral. In my opinion. “Do you not condemn and you will not be condemned” - bibles opinion.:))

Church Gunman’s Letter Shows Him Angry, Confused About God
CALL7 Investigators Obtain Copy Of Letter
Tom Burke and Tony Kovaleski , CALL7 Investigators

POSTED: 1:24 pm MDT March 12, 2008
UPDATED: 5:22 pm MDT March 12, 2008
DENVER — Sometime before his deadly rampage at the New Life Church in Colorado Springs, gunman Matthew Murray penned a letter addressed to God in which he poured out his frustration and confusion over his faith and ranted about the hypocrisy of Christians.

Colorado Springs police discovered the letter in Murray’s 1992 Toyota Camry, which was found parked outside the New Life Church on the day of the shootings. CALL7 Investigators obtained a copy of the letter on Wednesday, hours after Colorado Springs police released its official 450-plus page report on the shootings.

The expletive-laced letter addressed “To God” begins, “What have I done so wrong? What is wrong with me anyways? Am I really such a bad person?”

The one and half page later is primarily Murray asking questions of God.

“I didn’t even ask to be born. Jesus, where are you? Do you even care these days ?… Why didn’t you ever answer my cries for help? Why do I have to be hurt by so many Christians?” he asked.

In several sentences, Murray spews insults at God, using an epithet for female anatomy, and asks, “Why couldn’t you write your damn book more clearly?

“The more I read your stupid book, the more I pray, the more I reach out to Christians for help the more hurt and abused I get,” he wrote.

“I’ve heard good things about what Jesus can do, yet everywhere I go in Christianity, all the Christians I see or meet are miserable, angry, selfish, hypocritical, proud, power hungry, abusive, uncaring, confused, lustful, greedy, unsure of their doctrine and mean-spirited … Am I too lost to be saved? My soul cries for deliverance. I’m dieing (sp), praying, bleeding and screaming. Will I be denied???”

On Dec. 9, 2007, Murray shot and killed two people at the Youth With A Mission Center in Arvada then hours later went to Colorado Springs and opened fire at the New Life Church, killing two more people. Murray was shot several times by a security guard before he aimed a gun at his head and killed himself.

It’s obvious he worried about the ever-after but didn’t write anything about his intentions to kill himself.

“Honestly, I do sometimes worry about hell. How do I avoid hell? It seems everyone in Christianity these days are confused. … What is the truth? Where can I find it? Where can I find the real ‘Christians?’ … Are you too pissed off at me to even care about me or to hear my cries for help? Am I too wicked to have Salvation? Are you planning to hurt me more?”

He pointed out the hypocrisy in Christians and tried to set himself in a positive light in God’s eyes.

“I’m a much nicer person with integity (sp) and I am more sincere and caring for people … The younger people who ‘have’ Jesus are oftentimes controlled by lust. I’m not,” he wrote. “I want to be free from this lifelong pain. Why didn’t any changes occur or any love or help come when I accepted you as Lord and Savior?”

Original post: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/15576902/detail.html

stupes …what a fallacy!!!!! For people like you all with great degrees, you guyz sure speak unintelligently. Its not even the grammar, but the content of your opinions on this board. atheists have excellent ethics…lolol wow I assume that you have met all aetheist to determine that ridiculous conclusion that you have made… I will no longer participate on this board. Tis is absolutely ludacris

- I am completely agree to You. A particularly disgusting to do business from the use of religion. You are much closer to God than the Pope and Patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church. On my opinion:)) The belief - this is a personal persuasion, which should not graze a interests of other persons. God comes to us in many ways, including through atheism:)). A religion is the personal Sacrament of each.

Just remember — most atheists have excellent ethics, and many proclaiming believers are unethical. The bible was quoted in defense of slavery as often as against it. And, while sectarian continue, no atheist every harmed anybody for believing.