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		<title>By: Christian Volney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian Volney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I never imagined such a passionate response from by fellow Dominicans. It is welcoming to be able to discuss opposite positions in a civil manner without resorting to hostilities and innuendoes. 

Boldface, I must say, I rather enjoyed your constructive criticism, response and admire that spirit. As far as my subtle manner in which I also dish out some maypwe, you are correct. Do remember that I have also inherited the Dominican gene, that genetic makeup that can be frustrating to accommodate…LOL

Dani, well what can I say. You are also correct in your submission and I thank you for the compliment and title of “Mr Wisdom”. I do not feel smart in this present company; I will have you know….LOL
And yes, you are also correct that “I have been a strong advocate, “HAVE BEEN” does not mean I still am. I have come a long way on this topic of interest and to a conclusion that my people do not want this Oil Refinery in there backyard. That I respect and accept for many a reason as stated by so many. What I resent is the way we conduct ourselves when we do not want something. We tend to legitimize our cause at the expense of disrespecting others opinions and resorting to a “vieux baguy” status.

Constructive criticism is an amazing tool that needs to be employed when discussing any contentious issue. Exulting a compassionate attitude towards the person qualified for criticism is a critique I would subscribe to anytime. I do not posses a “my way or the highway” attitude and feel it is necessary to be victorious in any discussions that I partake in. I try to respect the opinions of everyone (even if I disagree with them) and have on occasions changed my position based on such communications. I have come to such a conclusion on the Oil Refinery. I have been enlightened and educated by many of you to the reality that exists with this proposal, and I respect that. 

The people of Dominica have made it quite clear that they do not support this idea and I will respect their wishes. What I will not respect is when it is suggested that because I do not live in Dominica I do not have the best interest `of the “little man” or Dominica at the forefront. 
Too many times in discussions of relevance, we as Dominicans have resorted to “Destructive Criticism” as the basis and means of our arguments, when we are not in agreement. Destructive criticism is intended to harm someone; it derogates and destroys people’s prestige and self-esteem on whatever level it may be displayed. This may not be done intentionally or out of sheer ignorance and foolishness. This is totally counter-productive and is usually a reaction from persons who are envious, cruel and spurred from those who judges in fields which are not there own.  

I thank each and every one of you for allowing me the opportunity to partake in this discussion and hope we can exert that passionate rendition displayed in the future for the love of our homeland.

Blessings to all.
Christian Volney.  
An understanding of….
Laboremus pro patria…..”Let us work for the fatherland”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I never imagined such a passionate response from by fellow Dominicans. It is welcoming to be able to discuss opposite positions in a civil manner without resorting to hostilities and innuendoes. </p>
<p>Boldface, I must say, I rather enjoyed your constructive criticism, response and admire that spirit. As far as my subtle manner in which I also dish out some maypwe, you are correct. Do remember that I have also inherited the Dominican gene, that genetic makeup that can be frustrating to accommodate…LOL</p>
<p>Dani, well what can I say. You are also correct in your submission and I thank you for the compliment and title of “Mr Wisdom”. I do not feel smart in this present company; I will have you know….LOL<br />
And yes, you are also correct that “I have been a strong advocate, “HAVE BEEN” does not mean I still am. I have come a long way on this topic of interest and to a conclusion that my people do not want this Oil Refinery in there backyard. That I respect and accept for many a reason as stated by so many. What I resent is the way we conduct ourselves when we do not want something. We tend to legitimize our cause at the expense of disrespecting others opinions and resorting to a “vieux baguy” status.</p>
<p>Constructive criticism is an amazing tool that needs to be employed when discussing any contentious issue. Exulting a compassionate attitude towards the person qualified for criticism is a critique I would subscribe to anytime. I do not posses a “my way or the highway” attitude and feel it is necessary to be victorious in any discussions that I partake in. I try to respect the opinions of everyone (even if I disagree with them) and have on occasions changed my position based on such communications. I have come to such a conclusion on the Oil Refinery. I have been enlightened and educated by many of you to the reality that exists with this proposal, and I respect that. </p>
<p>The people of Dominica have made it quite clear that they do not support this idea and I will respect their wishes. What I will not respect is when it is suggested that because I do not live in Dominica I do not have the best interest `of the “little man” or Dominica at the forefront.<br />
Too many times in discussions of relevance, we as Dominicans have resorted to “Destructive Criticism” as the basis and means of our arguments, when we are not in agreement. Destructive criticism is intended to harm someone; it derogates and destroys people’s prestige and self-esteem on whatever level it may be displayed. This may not be done intentionally or out of sheer ignorance and foolishness. This is totally counter-productive and is usually a reaction from persons who are envious, cruel and spurred from those who judges in fields which are not there own.  </p>
<p>I thank each and every one of you for allowing me the opportunity to partake in this discussion and hope we can exert that passionate rendition displayed in the future for the love of our homeland.</p>
<p>Blessings to all.<br />
Christian Volney.<br />
An understanding of….<br />
Laboremus pro patria…..”Let us work for the fatherland”</p>
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		<title>By: Sad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>look Dominica is one of the most beautiful islands around. It's paradise. Putting an oil refinery on it would just reuin it. Skeritt 
What really has Dominica in the place it is, are the incompitent leaders who are elected everytime by people who refuse to listen to the facts but rather vote based on who their parents voted for or who can give them something during campaigns.
I mean I look around Dominica and see areas where a particular political party is popular no matter what they do. That is rediculous and ignorant.  When someone comes along who tries to show the people what is wrong with that way of thinking everyone gets angry. 
What is wrong with the Dominican people. 
Very few people listen to the issues and as a matter of fact most don't want to. Change is needed because the people are suffering. How long will governments  come in and leave, steal, cheat and lie untill the people learn? What will it take?
I really think legislation should be passed stating how many times a particular person can be prime minister because old regimes do absolutely nothing for advancement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>look Dominica is one of the most beautiful islands around. It&#8217;s paradise. Putting an oil refinery on it would just reuin it. Skeritt<br />
What really has Dominica in the place it is, are the incompitent leaders who are elected everytime by people who refuse to listen to the facts but rather vote based on who their parents voted for or who can give them something during campaigns.<br />
I mean I look around Dominica and see areas where a particular political party is popular no matter what they do. That is rediculous and ignorant.  When someone comes along who tries to show the people what is wrong with that way of thinking everyone gets angry.<br />
What is wrong with the Dominican people.<br />
Very few people listen to the issues and as a matter of fact most don&#8217;t want to. Change is needed because the people are suffering. How long will governments  come in and leave, steal, cheat and lie untill the people learn? What will it take?<br />
I really think legislation should be passed stating how many times a particular person can be prime minister because old regimes do absolutely nothing for advancement.</p>
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		<title>By: dani</title>
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		<dc:creator>dani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Volney, dominicans must not be as "ignorant" "retarded" "racist" or uneducated as you think. And we are certainly not blind because look at YOUR post..yes if you scrool up YOU WILL see that you posted the following comment!!!...shall i highlight it?

Comment by Christian Volney  
2008-07-14 10:42:50 

I have been a strong advocate for the oil refinery (which has not come to fruition to date) as a sustainable means to the Dominican people from an employment and economic point of view. This is a much-needed sustainable base of revenue generation for the governments coiffure in combating the ongoing demise of the banana industry. 

So after you said "i have been a strong advocate for the oil refinery" which clearly delineates your position, you want to call people ignorate for challenging this view, and then you still dare to LIE and ask...

"Where have I stated that I am passionate about putting an Oil Refinery in Dominica?..".

and the thing is RIGHT THERE IN BLACK AND WHITE on the blog and you are acting as if somebody is trying to victimize you?

so tell me..if you say you are a "strong advocate" how can you be upset when somebody says you're passionate...

Put your money where your mouth is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Volney, dominicans must not be as &#8220;ignorant&#8221; &#8220;retarded&#8221; &#8220;racist&#8221; or uneducated as you think. And we are certainly not blind because look at YOUR post..yes if you scrool up YOU WILL see that you posted the following comment!!!&#8230;shall i highlight it?</p>
<p>Comment by Christian Volney<br />
2008-07-14 10:42:50 </p>
<p>I have been a strong advocate for the oil refinery (which has not come to fruition to date) as a sustainable means to the Dominican people from an employment and economic point of view. This is a much-needed sustainable base of revenue generation for the governments coiffure in combating the ongoing demise of the banana industry. </p>
<p>So after you said &#8220;i have been a strong advocate for the oil refinery&#8221; which clearly delineates your position, you want to call people ignorate for challenging this view, and then you still dare to LIE and ask&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Where have I stated that I am passionate about putting an Oil Refinery in Dominica?..&#8221;.</p>
<p>and the thing is RIGHT THERE IN BLACK AND WHITE on the blog and you are acting as if somebody is trying to victimize you?</p>
<p>so tell me..if you say you are a &#8220;strong advocate&#8221; how can you be upset when somebody says you&#8217;re passionate&#8230;</p>
<p>Put your money where your mouth is.</p>
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		<title>By: Veselo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veselo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So many people believe in the system and forget that system is managed by people, who just may have another interests and/or can do mistakes too. As for the nuclear power plant we paid too huge price for just believe and to be passionate to "due process". Is Christian Volney want to be happen something like that with Dominica too? Is it really necessary to play with the fire and take chances?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many people believe in the system and forget that system is managed by people, who just may have another interests and/or can do mistakes too. As for the nuclear power plant we paid too huge price for just believe and to be passionate to &#8220;due process&#8221;. Is Christian Volney want to be happen something like that with Dominica too? Is it really necessary to play with the fire and take chances?</p>
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		<title>By: dani</title>
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		<dc:creator>dani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's quite interesting that you should refer to such a relevant situation as the nuclear power plant. 

I was going to tell Mr. Wisdom that dominicans DON'T NEED the EIA report. We are educated people with brains of our own.

Asking us to wait for the EIA report is like telling somebody whose house is right next to a bushfire that he should first wait for a fireman to come and assess the situation before attempting to put out the fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s quite interesting that you should refer to such a relevant situation as the nuclear power plant. </p>
<p>I was going to tell Mr. Wisdom that dominicans DON&#8217;T NEED the EIA report. We are educated people with brains of our own.</p>
<p>Asking us to wait for the EIA report is like telling somebody whose house is right next to a bushfire that he should first wait for a fireman to come and assess the situation before attempting to put out the fire.</p>
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		<title>By: Veselo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veselo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you, that is not good that people in the discussion to go in personal level and start to call each other by names without actually asking or listenning to the point or asking the questions first. Most of that because of not to be confident about ouserlves. Sometimes I think I do it by myself too, because of emotions.

I am from Russia and in my country was built the Nuclear Power Plant. It was took a place the “due process”. The EIA report and its recommendations told us that it is a VERY SAFE Nuclear Power Plant IN THE WORLD AND NOTHING CAN BE HAPPEN WITH THAT. So, guess what? The SAFIEST Nuclear Power Plant had the WORST nuclear power plant ACCIDENT IN HISTORY. Do you know how much people was dead? 10 000 at one moment and AFTER - 2 MILLIONS because of radiation. What about environment of the region? It is dead zone for many years now.

Would you feel passionate about any “due process” and EIA report and its recommendations now? Whould you play with the future of the NATURE island?

The Oil Refinery of cause not as big as the Nuclear Power Plant and do their damage by other way, but for small island as Dominica it is more than enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you, that is not good that people in the discussion to go in personal level and start to call each other by names without actually asking or listenning to the point or asking the questions first. Most of that because of not to be confident about ouserlves. Sometimes I think I do it by myself too, because of emotions.</p>
<p>I am from Russia and in my country was built the Nuclear Power Plant. It was took a place the “due process”. The EIA report and its recommendations told us that it is a VERY SAFE Nuclear Power Plant IN THE WORLD AND NOTHING CAN BE HAPPEN WITH THAT. So, guess what? The SAFIEST Nuclear Power Plant had the WORST nuclear power plant ACCIDENT IN HISTORY. Do you know how much people was dead? 10 000 at one moment and AFTER - 2 MILLIONS because of radiation. What about environment of the region? It is dead zone for many years now.</p>
<p>Would you feel passionate about any “due process” and EIA report and its recommendations now? Whould you play with the future of the NATURE island?</p>
<p>The Oil Refinery of cause not as big as the Nuclear Power Plant and do their damage by other way, but for small island as Dominica it is more than enough.</p>
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		<title>By: boldface dominican</title>
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		<dc:creator>boldface dominican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mr volney,

with all due respect to you  i have read the blogs and i d understand your position.  At the sme time I thought that you indeed dish out your own type of insultive criticism but in a more subtle mannner.   I have already given my idea of this refinery and i believe due process isn't really necessary especially when we are aware of the results of this refinery.   Due process I believe is only necssary when it promotes positive anwsers.   I don't think many or anyone on here called you a biggit.   But as for discrimination in schools that person must have attended CDCC to have come up with that idea :-).  You are resorting to name calling youself.  Nobody's opnion should ever referred to as slavish or idiotic!  its their own opnion.  yes they said your bread was buttered.  Its that person's idea that you can make a life in many places in which they can't.  I  agree that doesn't mean you can't give your thoughts  as well, but because I also live somewhere else I will respect the decision of Dominicans not to even think of having something that can potentially harm the environment and dominica.   We are all name callersget over it Volney!  Your word shouldn't always be the last word!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mr volney,</p>
<p>with all due respect to you  i have read the blogs and i d understand your position.  At the sme time I thought that you indeed dish out your own type of insultive criticism but in a more subtle mannner.   I have already given my idea of this refinery and i believe due process isn&#8217;t really necessary especially when we are aware of the results of this refinery.   Due process I believe is only necssary when it promotes positive anwsers.   I don&#8217;t think many or anyone on here called you a biggit.   But as for discrimination in schools that person must have attended CDCC to have come up with that idea :-).  You are resorting to name calling youself.  Nobody&#8217;s opnion should ever referred to as slavish or idiotic!  its their own opnion.  yes they said your bread was buttered.  Its that person&#8217;s idea that you can make a life in many places in which they can&#8217;t.  I  agree that doesn&#8217;t mean you can&#8217;t give your thoughts  as well, but because I also live somewhere else I will respect the decision of Dominicans not to even think of having something that can potentially harm the environment and dominica.   We are all name callersget over it Volney!  Your word shouldn&#8217;t always be the last word!</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Volney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian Volney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No I have not lived close to an Oil Refinery and I certainly would not want too; I do not think any Dominican should be subjected to proximity of. That is irrelevant to my contention of due process.
I am only suggesting that we allow the process to unfold so we can all educate ourselves to the seriousness of such a proposal. I want to see the Environmental Impact Assessment report so we can reach a qualified decision based on fact. We have a tendency to nonchalantly kill proposals without fully studying the independent assessments of there viability. This train of thought is in no way suggestive of an approval stance as some will have you believe. 
Would it not be nice to understand fully the implications associated with an Oil Refinery? I think it would and more importantly once and for all allow us the necessary evidence required to once and for all collectively be in consensus. What is so wrong about this understanding?

My opinions have been ostracized; I have been accused of racism and bigotry and responsible of discrimination in the school system.
That is a pathetic display of communicating a resolve to a very contentious issue. This is how we problem solve issues in Dominica by resorting to name calling and idiotic suggestions of zero relevance to the topic of discussion. 
How can we forward any agenda with such a mentality...Oops, sorry, I will probably be branded for this language! 
Peace and wellness to all.
CV</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No I have not lived close to an Oil Refinery and I certainly would not want too; I do not think any Dominican should be subjected to proximity of. That is irrelevant to my contention of due process.<br />
I am only suggesting that we allow the process to unfold so we can all educate ourselves to the seriousness of such a proposal. I want to see the Environmental Impact Assessment report so we can reach a qualified decision based on fact. We have a tendency to nonchalantly kill proposals without fully studying the independent assessments of there viability. This train of thought is in no way suggestive of an approval stance as some will have you believe.<br />
Would it not be nice to understand fully the implications associated with an Oil Refinery? I think it would and more importantly once and for all allow us the necessary evidence required to once and for all collectively be in consensus. What is so wrong about this understanding?</p>
<p>My opinions have been ostracized; I have been accused of racism and bigotry and responsible of discrimination in the school system.<br />
That is a pathetic display of communicating a resolve to a very contentious issue. This is how we problem solve issues in Dominica by resorting to name calling and idiotic suggestions of zero relevance to the topic of discussion.<br />
How can we forward any agenda with such a mentality&#8230;Oops, sorry, I will probably be branded for this language!<br />
Peace and wellness to all.<br />
CV</p>
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		<title>By: Veselo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Veselo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you ever live close to any Oil Refinery?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you ever live close to any Oil Refinery?</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Volney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian Volney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where have I stated that I am passionate about putting an Oil Refinery in Dominica?
I am passionate about "due process" and what we can learn from the experience as it unfolds, such as the EIA report and its recommendations.
We the people need to base our decision on facts and not on fear-mongering and that is all I am suggesting. Why is this so bad?

As to contributing to discrimination in the school system, how have you come to this conclusion? You have an incredible aptitude for drawing conclusions off the wall and I find this quite disturbing, but not surprising.
You obviously do not know me personally, or how my life has unfolded growing up in Roseau as a Boy, for that comment would never have been made. 

"You feel like Dominicans living at home have proven their stupidity and ‘SLAVE MENTALITY’ by remaining here and that they are hence incapable of deciding whether or not an oil refinery would be to their detriment?"

Incredible comment and one that signifies little to me, what else can I say. I am disappointed that you feel that it is necessary to try and degrade me, comment with such ignorance, and portray someone you do not know (quite obvious) as being some sort of bigot and or racist. 
I concede to these comments at this time; I thought we could have engaged in a meaningful conversation open mindedly, but it seems as if we have lowered the benchmark and it now has become redundant to continue or dignify any further.

Peace to you both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where have I stated that I am passionate about putting an Oil Refinery in Dominica?<br />
I am passionate about &#8220;due process&#8221; and what we can learn from the experience as it unfolds, such as the EIA report and its recommendations.<br />
We the people need to base our decision on facts and not on fear-mongering and that is all I am suggesting. Why is this so bad?</p>
<p>As to contributing to discrimination in the school system, how have you come to this conclusion? You have an incredible aptitude for drawing conclusions off the wall and I find this quite disturbing, but not surprising.<br />
You obviously do not know me personally, or how my life has unfolded growing up in Roseau as a Boy, for that comment would never have been made. </p>
<p>&#8220;You feel like Dominicans living at home have proven their stupidity and ‘SLAVE MENTALITY’ by remaining here and that they are hence incapable of deciding whether or not an oil refinery would be to their detriment?&#8221;</p>
<p>Incredible comment and one that signifies little to me, what else can I say. I am disappointed that you feel that it is necessary to try and degrade me, comment with such ignorance, and portray someone you do not know (quite obvious) as being some sort of bigot and or racist.<br />
I concede to these comments at this time; I thought we could have engaged in a meaningful conversation open mindedly, but it seems as if we have lowered the benchmark and it now has become redundant to continue or dignify any further.</p>
<p>Peace to you both.</p>
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